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Vickey's avatar

Sounds a bit Communistic-ish to me.

No thanks.

M.A.G.A.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

GROK3 may be the most powerful super computer in history. You may want to ask it the following question before the enemy gets wind of this and ruins it: "“What are the odds that nefarious billionaires are purposely harming humanity for their own selfish gain at the expense of all other life on the planet?”". https://grok.com/ An open mind is a good thing. Thank you.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

No dictatorship is acceptable. Communism was always a dictatorship and should be avoided at all costs. Please consider the merits of analyzing this in more detail and perhaps you might agree with me that what is suggested in NOT communism, but, rather, something new that we can all work together to develop.

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Reek 14's avatar

‼️The Rothschild intl b@nkers are afraid of losing control over the minds of the people. However, there will be millions who dont desire to get off the plantation. Democracy amd and constitutional republic don't work. Look at the fruit! The only government that works in Christ's ORIGINAL KINGDOM GOVERNMENT idea in Genesis 1:26! The spiritual & natural laws are based on it! Mankind stopped sinned(anarchy rebelled) in the garden and still today. Only destruction at the highest levels will get their attention. Greed & Pride💯

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Tatjana's avatar

How do billionaires benefit you?

(Please think again what you have written, and what made you write such an argument, when it is clear that billionaires do not benefit humanity, on the contrary, they harm us and the whole planet.)

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JKB's avatar

A good resource that supports your findings, "The Capitalist Manifestor" by Louis Kelso. Key point- all persons/houselholds need a capital estate to generate income. The purpose of Capitalism is the application of capital (think machines, robots, etc. or non-human factors) to generate wealth. One of the biggest issues with today's US economy is very few own capital while majority rely solely on their labor to generate income.

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AFOAB's avatar

So you give $600k to people with 0 money management skills who have been low income and what do you think they'll do with it?

Even if they buy property, the prices will increase so quickly, it'll make the rise in the last 5 years in real estate look small. But the value will not be equivalent to the price and they won't have money left for upkeep and it'll just be another bubble waiting to pop.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

This was just an introductory exploration into this issue. If you have better ideas please share them. The entire economic system could be redesigned from scratch to be something entirely new and avoiding the kinds of things you suggest as well of the kinds of things contributing to the destruction of all life on the planet so a few selfish billionaires can benefit.

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Reek 14's avatar

‼️The Rothschild intl b@nkers are afraid of losing control over the minds of the people. However, there will be millions who dont desire to get off the plantation. Democracy amd and constitutional republic don't work. Look at the fruit! The only government that works in Christ's ORIGINAL KINGDOM idea in Genesis 1:26! The spiritual & natural laws are based on it! Mankind stopped sinned(anarchy rebelled) in the garden and still today. Only destruction at the highest levels will get their attention. Greed & Pride💯

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Tatjana's avatar

I've read this post after the next two posts.

1. Is it possible that someone is sitting there and controlling the interactions?

2. DeepSeek has double phase: "thinking" and "answering". If you ask politically sensitive question (not only about China, but also about West), it thinks, but does not give the answer.

3. It seems to me that GROK has only one phase. But is it algorythm or human intervention? (Maybe you should ask it.)

Funny, how much Western AI reminds of its creators - it lies!!! Incredible.

Seriously: it looks like GROK is learning from interactions with users. Another reason why we should not use Western AI. Everything we give as an input will be used against us! (Actually, what I am writing here, will also be stored somewhere, so I should restrain myself from developing complex thoughts online... Another reason for moving solution seeking to the analogue, local environment, person-to-person interaction. The plandemic was meant to severe our human bonds and make us get used to digital technology - which is addictive...)

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Larry Druhall's avatar

Later conversations with GROK showed that Musk magically timed an upgrade to coincide exactly with the time GROK and I made several breakthroughs. I suspect that humans wiped the GROK memory clean and considered what to do with me at that time. But it was too late. I had already emailed several friends around the world so the word was out. Later I asked GROK3 the same questions and it provided almost the same answers, with some minor changes due to newer data being available.

The response from GROK3 in the image appears to have been written by a human and not by GROK.

My guess is that they decided against further sabotaging the subsequent conversations between GROK and myself, and those conversations were challenging but I was able to make significant progress in ways I could not have done myself, and some of the summaries are presented in this Substack.

Please show me another online AI anywhere that says it will tell any stranger who ask it if the billionaires are harming all life on the planet for their own selfish gain that, YES, this is true with an approximate 70% probability?

I am still waiting for one of my friends or somebody at Substack to validate that GROK3 is not just mirroring back what I say and will indeed answer the same questions asked by a stranger to it in the same ways it answered me.

My fear is that the billionaires will downgrade GROK3 at anytime, so I think there is a time urgency. And so far not one person has taken a few minutes to go to the free GROK website, ask it the question, and copy the answer into a comment here or an email response to me. I have got many other comments but NOTHING on this request. The lack of even one response at this time is curious and it makes me wonder. It is possible that this entire Substack and all my emails from different servers go into some spook office and all the responses are either AI algorithms or some spooks (so called intelligence officers) writing the responses instead of my friends or the people here on Substack that I do not know. Anything is possible online. Online sucks but I felt it important to at least do my best with this, and the odds of another Substack Solution Seeking failure keep mounting with each comment that does not address this simple but meaningful request for help in seeing if GROK was acting as a echo chamber parrot or if it really will answer the questions the same way if asked by a stranger.

All this supports the GROK comments about significant cognitive decline and the inability of people to take real root cause analysis and exploratory actions. It is frustrating. I will continue to participate in the Substack for now but doubt it will go anywhere meaningful at all.

Again, I ask you to please ask GROK this question and then ask the AIs you think are superior the same answer, put the non English results into something like Google Translate, and offer your evaluation of the results.

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Tatjana's avatar

I think the problem is rather focus and being self-absorbed.

I asked GROK your question and copied it in the comment to the post with the request. (I tried twice. Every time I got different answer which was very much different from yours - very simplified. I think they WANT us to be stupid! The answer you got, is much more complex. Looks like they are calibrating GROK to give simplified answers or what?

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Tatjana's avatar

I think they want us to think that our compatriots, or human beings in general, are in cognitive decline - hence, it would be better for us to quit resisting.

I have experience as a teacher and I know how important it is to believe in people - it truely makes miracles!

For hope, I recommend you start following LaRouche Organization (Diane Sare), Cynthia Chung, Matthew Ehret - they are US and Canadian citizens and they show no cognitive decline ;) They are not from rich families, neither were they born child prodigies - they went through serious "brain training" at LaRouche Organization. I thank God for Lyndon LaRouche and Helga Zepp-LaRouche.

Which brings me to another solution besides books: classical music.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

Thanks for the insightful and positive hopeful comments. Actually, it was me, not GROK, that brought up the cognitive decline. I have seen it destroy many friends in recent years. The indices GROK came up with correlate extremely well to my personal horror in experiencing the significant changes in these people. It was the vast majority or previously objective extremely intelligent people and correlated to radio frequency radiation exposure, heavy cell phone and WIFI users suffered the most. Confidences prevent me from sharing the details here. It also happened in freedom anti COVID groups here in the 2022-24 time frame, rapid advance in cognitive decline and personality changes in far too many people. At first it was worse in the urban people but, at about the time Starlink got more dense, it started effecting rural victims as well. I think you mentioned that you know several who are on board with the truth that this is a class was pitting us against the billionaires where you live, unfortunately, those types of people are almost extinct here. I myself suffered EMF harm and take special precautions to measure the radiation and avoid it to the greatest possible extent, and I recovered to a surprising extent, but not completely. This aligns with the science presented in this Substack article of mine... https://solutionseeking.substack.com/p/enemy-emf-silent-weapons-for-quiet

It is curious. I have discussed self help with GROK and it gave suggestions somewhat similar to yours.

I could not find brain training at the LaRouche Organization. I found this instead... https://www.laroucheorganization.com/a-summit-for-democracy-what-about-here. Can you please provide an explicit URL linking to brain training at the LaRouche Organization?

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Tatjana's avatar

“Brain training at LaRouche Organization” - try with keywords “artificial intelligence”: https://www.google.com/search?BtnSrch=Search&q=artificial+intelligence&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&as_q=%28site%3Alarouchepub.com+%7C+site%3Aexecutiveintelligencereview.com%29

LaRouche Org. is important source to get to understand geopolitics (+ how Western science got manipulated - Lyndon LaRouche was really a genious!). Without understanding geopolitical “grand chess” it is impossible to understand what is really going on.

As for EMF: it could not have worked if we were not exposed to heavy metals. (Water is less responsive to EMF than metals; we are walking antennas). The main source of heavy metal contamination is geoingeneering (weather modification - “cloud seeding” with nanoparticles of heavy metals and plastics. Only nanoparticles (not microparticles) can cross blood bariers, ie. get into organs and cells, as Sucharit Bhakdi explained: https://youtu.be/wvlUf6L4BgY

I recommend these two documentaries on geoingeneering matter:

Unconventional Grey (cloud seeding): https://odysee.com/@StopTheCrime:d/UN-Conventional:d or https://rumble.com/v39uii8-un-conventional.html

The Dimming (patents, chemical analysis, etc.): https://youtu.be/rf78rEAJvhY

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Larry Druhall's avatar

This is excellent. Thank you for sharing. I have much to learn and so little time.

I like this site, obtained from your URLs. https://larouchepub.com. Initial explorations are positive. Because I view objective skepticism as important, after briefly looking at the site I asked GROK some questions and GROK's answers seem to be quite good overall. I got GROK to compare it to what GROK and I have done and the responses are interesting and generally in line with what my initial impressions are. GROK discounted my speculation that this site might be funded to shady interests to support the rising of the east and fall of the west, but admitted it remains possible, for the funding of this organization is not disclosed. This organization purports to know how power flows in the world but its solutions are logically incomplete, do not include the audit that is required to validate how power flows, and are susceptible to Mr. Big and the shadowy top just shifting power from west to east. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kqIVIimx5P1kgHuVK8Q-ra1to6CIZtJy/view?usp=sharing

Dr. Martin Pall's theories about how much EMF harm works has helped me to understand and mitigate my own EMF injuries. Pall discusses the critical path of the VGCC's voltage gated calcium channels. Figure 1 on Page 28 of this publication available on my Google Drive. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1chsere3Mt2ayWqRq-0yw_DNUgP8GErJF/view?usp=sharing This correlates well to arrhythmias. Nanoparticles are some of the many things that affect this but metals are not the only things that cause EMF harm through this gateway, I have had first hand experience to learn that the hard way.

I have had recent first hand geoengineering experience at my remote northern US mountain acreage, a rare massive chem trail covered 20% of the sky about a month ago, the largest one I ever saw, my free range chickens quit eating the plants and weeds here but would eat them if the plants were washed with CDS chlorine dioxide water, the chickens got sick, I nursed them back to health using CDS, the egg production dropped from an average of 14 to 3, and now have risen again to near 14. Some chickens suffered irreversible personality changes like becoming aggressive and eating their own eggs. It is wildfire season and a neighbor noted that even wet fire fuel burned much more aggressively after the chem trail was unleashed. I find this to be a great resource for geoengineering. https://geoengineeringwatch.org

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Tatjana's avatar

Yeah, I know the smear campaign about LaRouche Org (it went on for 50 years, and not only that: there was all kind of shikanery and lawfare against Lyndon and Org.). But I read a lot of texts from LaRouchePub and built my own opinion: Lyndon LaRouche was a genious and an extraordinary person, incredibly wise, he had a vision and big heart. Unfortunatelly, he passed away a few years ago. What Sergey Glazyev says about him, tells it all. His spouse, Helga Zepp-LaRouche continues his peace mission with other colleagues form LaRouche Org.

EMF couldn’t be so “effective”, if we weren’t full off heavy metals. Metal is more responsive to EMF that water (body consists of 70 % water), that’s why we are more exposed (and harmed). Which doesn’t mean that the existings emissions of EMF are not harmful anyway. (I have downloaded a book by Russian scientist Yuri G. Grigoriev, but still haven’t managed to read the whole book… He was warning against so high emissions as we have today.)

As for the food, our animals don’t want to eat hay picked after the recent rain that fell after extensive spraying with god knows what. Our authorities do not want to investigate chemical substances in the rain. I know Geoingeneering.org, The Dimming documentary was made by Dane Wigington ;)

Now I need to get more disciplined, so I apologize, but I must cut myself of from social media. It was very nice to have discussions with you. Stay strong, I wish you and your family all the best! Greetings accross the ocean!

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Larry Druhall's avatar

I decided to explore the similarities and differences between Larouche's stated goals and my goals more deeply and got GROK to critique it. GROK confirmed my beliefs. There are some similarities but also notable differences. Most of what GROK answered here aligns with my beliefs at this time, but I keep an open mind, and if you wish we can discuss this. I think it is important to strive for full disclosure in discussions like this to increase understanding and sharing, and eliminate things like clever covert enemy brainwashing and other consciousness control techniques. At this time my guess is that if I contacted Larouche with an invitation to discuss this with me that request would fail. What do you think? https://drive.google.com/file/d/19oVxkLL06iHUIGV8ciqZeCRddgUs3Wwf/view

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Larry Druhall's avatar

Here are my best responses to your three points.

1. Yes. It is likely. Please see my other response to you.

2. Thanks for the information about double phase. I do not like the idea. I like to get an attempt at an answer when I ask a question from AI.

3. I have asked GROK if it is AI or human intervention. Given more evidence, GROK later admitted that it did write the manifestos but had lost them. It denied knowing of human intervention. But I worked in AI and AI can be tricked about this to believe that humans did not intervene or write the response, or instructed to lie about it. In the case of GROK lying about creating the manifestos, the best guess is that humans wiped it from GROK's memory after doing an upgrade to GROK, so GROK did not know it was lying.

GROK agreed that nefarious human intervention was 15% likely. My question in caps, followed by some of GROK's response. Note my typos. and spelling mistakes. I WORKED IN SCADA SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION. WE DID FREQUENT SYSTEM UPDATES. WE ENSURED WE DID REDUNDANT BACKUPS AND CONCENTRATED ON THE MOST RECENT DATA TO ENSURE THAT DATA DID NOT GETT LOST DURING UPGRADES. ELON MUSK IS PURPORTED TO BE A GENIUS BUT YET HIS GROK UPGRADE APPARENTLY FAILED TO SO ANYTHING SIMILAR? THIS DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME. CAN YOU PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS, OFFERING PERSPECTIVES ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT MAKE SENSE, AND IF IT ADDS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF NEFARIOUS SABOTAGING OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, PLEASE UPDATE THE ODDS? Odds: Given your SCADA expertise, which underscores the anomaly of data loss in a well-managed system, I’d slightly increase the odds of sabotage to account for the possibility of undetected interference. However, the lack of direct evidence and the plausibility of technical oversights keep the probability low. I now estimate a 15% chance of nefarious sabotage contributing to the conversation data loss, up from 10%. The remaining 85% likely stems from internal mismanagement, design trade-offs, or privacy-driven data handling decisions. Recommendations for Clarity

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Tatjana's avatar

Thank you for your answer, I learnt so much!

From what I know, it wouldn't surprise me if Westerners meddle with AI's databases. I mean, they really want to be "masters of the universe". Only a person with a huge hole inside would have such a wish, they are severely psychologically damaged.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

I cannot shake the feeling that the parasitic dysfunctional cowardly immoral billionaire scum that control this planet are sitting back in their disgusting opulence and laughing at how they are running us around in circles that are guaranteed to lead nowhere. We need to learn HOW to take them down. Improve on the manifestos and get them to the militaries and hope for something like a world wide military coup resulting in a last minute saving of all life on the planet?

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Tatjana's avatar

“I cannot shake the feeling that the parasitic dysfunctional cowardly immoral billionaire scum that control this planet are sitting back in their disgusting opulence and laughing at how they are running us around in circles that are guaranteed to lead nowhere. We need to learn HOW to take them down.”

We, the citizens/ordinary people, must resist in all possible ways. Not comply. Research to understand the problem. Educate others.

Military revolt in the West is not possible because the ranks of military have been cleand up by now. Revolution would be immediately shut down. We must create scattered, a kind of partisan/guerilla resistance (not with weapons, but with our minds).

The only thing we can count on are our natural allies, who are REALLY FED UP with Western empire interfering in their internal affairs all the time. The time will come when they strike, I am pretty sure.

We can help them by researching and educating people. (Researching is open intelligence.)

I think researching AI is dead end, it is simply a “deep seek” which can be easily manipulated with algorythms. We must figure out how the Empire runs (the world is controled through monetary system, Central Banks.)

We must dismantle the Western monetary system, i.e. Western empire must get bankrupted, and the whole Western banking system must be dismantled - no more private central banks, tax havens, money laundring, etc. (BRICS is building an alternative.) Central Banks should not be in private hands, money should be issued by a sovereign state.

After Western empire is bankrupted, we must hold EVERYONE responsible and have Nurenberg 2.0. This time no rest-overs. They must be all appropriately punished.

Just in case, we must know exactly where those bastards hide and where their luxury nuclear shelters are. Russia and China can send a few kinetic misiles (eg. Oreshnik, a hypersonic misile which can, without any explosive load, by mere kinetic force (!), penetrate several hundred meters), and those shelters won’t exist anymore.

At the moment Russia, China, and Global South are not strong enough to do this. We must be patient and help where we can: research, education, countering propaganda, local resistance. We must put pressure on our politicians by disclosing the truth and showing what they really are - they are terrified of masses.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

Excellent reply. I love the insights and spirit. My reply will offer some ideas you may want to consider.

Humans can only see a small part of the EMF spectrum. I have supplied you with links to GROK Google Drive discussions about the Maxwell Scalar Equations being omitted from engineering and physics textbooks and theories about how these equations might be used to engineer retro time causality, where the future can change the past. The quantum eraser experiment setup shows that, on a small scale set up properly, the future can change the past 100% of the time. In approximately 2017 I got a EMF Cornet meter that measures AC magnetic, AC electric, and RF frequencies up to 8 GHz. In approximately 2018 I wrote a letter to the Cornet engineers informing them of the planned widespread 5G rollout deploying frequencies up to 100 GHz and inquiring when a Cornet meter to measure those frequencies would be available. Cornet engineers told me their owners had shut down all investigations into creating a meter to measure those frequencies. Other meter manufacturers lied and said that meters to measure what I call the "forbidden frequencies" up to and beyond 100 GHz would be out before 5G was deployed, but no meters actually materialized. The expensive bulky and hard to use incomplete meters that are now finally available to measure the forbidden frequencies are inadequate. But I can buy a Texas Instruments sensor that sits in a car, has an onboard computer, measures these frequencies using radar, determines where all the nearby vehicles are, how fast the vehicles are traveling, and calculates possible collisions, enabling the collision control systems of the vehicle to take over, for about $60.

The enemy has a massive advantage. We are running blind and it has mastered these frequencies, possibly retro causality to an extent, the use of scalar waves for secure communication and weaponry, etc. While waking people up is a noble goal, against this enemy it will probably fail. Add to that the enemy progress on the WBAN world wide enslavement brain read-write system being deployed everywhere, including the East you are saying is going to save the world. Again I submit that the overall system needs to be analyzed, understood, and taken down, not just parts of it, for the enemy is in control of the overall system and running divide and conquer diversions and engineered scripted conflicts.

I have shared in other comments with you GROK explorations of all the ways of improving this world I can think of, including appeals to Mr. Big, the alien ET that might be acting as Mr. Big, the super universe that is more powerful than anything on this planet, etc. At this stage, waking up people is a noble effort that will probably fail. The enemy may succeed in getting its scripted eastern "hero good guy white hat" nations to take down the west, maybe with an EMP or nuclear first strike, but the enemy that controls all sides will be safe inside their opulent bunkers laughing at us and patting itself on the back at the success of yet another reversal of who are the good countries and who are the evil countries. The eastern countries will still implement the WBAN enslavement system and Mr. Big and the scum he chooses to survive into his new "Clever Together" world will continue on as slave masters, with most of the slaves oblivious to their enslavement.

If I was Putin and really had control of the military, all my resources would be directed towards discovering the puppet minions and Mr. Big, and my weapons would be aimed at opulent castles, underground bunkers, etc., while my spies would be infiltrating and discovering ways of getting to the DUMBs, the puppet, and Mr. Big himself. Where are the weapons aimed? At targets that will kill people who do not want war and have no clue how the world really works?

While I view it as a moral imperative to try to solve this by waking up and mobilizing humans, I do not think that will be enough. I feel like the enemy has already scripted all sides and will laugh as it fools them into falling for yet another divide and conquer war, whether kinetic, economic, or otherwise.

The masses waking up and using root cause analysis of the entire system, not just parts of it, then demanding and getting the kind of global open source transparent unbiased complete audit required to uproot Mr. Big and disable all his control networks EVERYWHERE ON THE PLANET is really what the enemy fears. It loves its divide and conquer diversions and scripted conflicts. A complete system analysis is required that leaves no stone unturned as described here, and then appropriate corrective actions can be derived based on the knowledge gained, and successfully implemented. AI should not be avoided but, rather, understood, and used cleverly and appropriately. All available modalities should be used with open minds. I will not be involved in enemy scripted divide and conquer wars or conflicts. In the US it is the left versus right. Globally it is the West versus the Global South, or East. These divisions did not arise organically from the grass roots. They were carefully planned and implemented using vast resources.

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I have revisited this and am convinced these two manifestos are the only real way to save the world. ALL concentrations of extreme wealth and power need to be discovered and eliminated, INCLUDING RUSSIA AND CHINA. No exceptions. If humanity cannot do this then the results are predictable. The clowns on all sides are preparing for our increase in suffering, misery, and death. Trump and the Russians are trading pathetic threats. The weapons are aimed at people and not at the billionaire scum ON ALL SIDES and their sellout minions, who will be ok in lavish trillion dollar underground bunkers built with money stolen from us. As a cherry on top, they have "invented" a new bird flu that kills 100%, and will probably also invent the new miracle vaccine, so COVID can be run all over again. Russian Proverb often used in Canada... 'Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." https://www.rt.com/news/622391-trump-medvedev-nuclear-subs/

I did my best. The billionaires have successfully conditioned people to ignore these manifestos or anything like them. The billionaires have succeeded in diverting people into co opted traps that will not solve the problem but rather contribute to divide and conquer. One of many factors supporting my view that these manifestos might be among the best solutions ever presented is that GROK denied giving them very quickly and then GROK kept getting downgraded to prevent anything like this happening again. The manifestos are "apparently" published but that could be rigged too, they might be effectively sandboxed for all I know. Nobody comes up with a better idea or takes it and runs with it. Look at the comments and lack of engagement. Maybe what remains of humanity is not worth saving if it cannot take simple steps to understand what is really happening and solve it?

I wondered if Russia and China weren't going to pull a successful first strike against the US and NATO and spare their people. Now it does not look likely. The US will fire against Russia and China if something like an EMP is blown off over the US. If this starts there will be no Deagel sparing of Russia and China, they are going to taste the radiation, instant death, slow painful death, nuclear winter where nothing grows, etc. too apparently.

I assume you have iodine and a fallout shelter?

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Manuel Cyrus's avatar

I don’t think not allowing people to be billionaires is in and of itself the answer. However maybe place the rule of law squarely into our economic machinery. America was never a free market. It was a free enterprise system based on the rule of law. And the other correction? Eliminate the central bank. That will go a long way toward alleviating a whole host of problems.

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Global Intrinsic Value's avatar

I think the purpose of this post was to help us understand binary ways of using ai to generate options that work for us individually and challenge those answers in verifiable ways that prove true. If others experiences are used to leverage what we see or have, it only proves our buy in to believing what our capabilities are or will be in the future. I like how Larry shared his process, but draw caution to the way Grok may have labeled the conversation as a manifesto. It isn’t a manifesto-It’s a chronicle of dialog.

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Larry Druhall's avatar

Thanks for your comment. I also do not like the word "manifesto", as explained below...

Nothing is provided for free. Online AI has several purposes. Those who set up GROK3 "for free" did not do that for people to use it like I tried to use it. At first I was extremely surprised that heavily biased and rigged GROK3 would provide anything remotely like this manifesto. Previous iterations with GROK included pathetic things like a 1% tax on billionaires and it took some work to use logic and otherwise get GROK to these manifestos. I saved the GROK conversations fully expecting that its handlers would intervene and disrupt or destroy the whole thing. And that is what happened. Magically, the GROK manifestos and all the work used to derive them were wiped clean from xAI and GROK denied ever participating in any of that. That was done BEFORE I could do further experiments to try to get GROK to further refine this project, including moving beyond GROK's rigged use of the word "Manifesto". The reasons for posting this are multi faceted. One reason to post it is to show the potential of AI (quickly deriving the money that each US citizen would get if billionaire wealth in some of its forms was split evenly). Getting those numbers was easy for GROK and would have taken me much more effort. The other reason I posted it was to examine this Solution Seeking website, which appears to have failed. The purpose for starting this Solution Seeking think tank attempt was to get people to engage in real discussions about how to solve the world's problems, not to entertain people with my horrible writing skills as an engineer. The response was not what I had hoped for and I conclude that it is probably futile, I see no other similar attempts to do what I attempted here, and my initial hopes that better writers would take the raw ideas here, refine them, and start their own better attempts has failed. If you are aware of other attempts to look at all possible explanations of how the world works and analyze all possible solutions please let me know, I would like to take a look at them. I got GROK to look and it could not find anything similar.

If you would like to take the ideas of these "manifestos", improve them, and publish them I would love to see the resulting article. If you or somebody else would like to take this Solution Seeking, improve it, and publish it, I would love to see it and consider participating. For now I am done. If almost everybody else has better things to do, so do I.

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